Showing posts with label limit orders. Show all posts
Showing posts with label limit orders. Show all posts

Thursday, December 8, 2011

Stop Losses

Hard Stop Losses
I like Stop Losses, I just don't normally use them - Hard Stop Losses, that is.  A Hard Stop Loss specifies that we want to sell when the price drops to, or below, the Stop Price we have entered.  This is so we can specify the selling price in advance, which means we don't have to sit and watch in case the price drops below that point.

Stop Loss, or Target?
While it sounds good in principle, my experience is Hard Stop's don't work so well.  The main reason being, if the market maker for the equity I own sees the opportunity to make a large commission by tripping my Stop Loss, that is usually just what happens.  In today's world, I don't know exactly how the orders are matched, but it has been my experience that the person responsible could usually make it to my stop to collect the commission, only for the price to continue higher from there.  I suspect it is even easier to do in today's electronic markets.  If the Stop Loss is too far away from the current price, they won't even allow it.  If it is fairly tight, or close to the price I want, then getting to that price is doable.

Exit Point
Don't get me wrong, though - I am one to say never enter a position without having an exit point.  If I am unable to watch the market during the day, then I wait until the end of the day to put in the sell order, if necessary.  If I am in doubt as to how far the market might move against me, I just sell, anyway.

Trailing Stops
I don't use Hard Stops and I don't use Trailing Stops.  These are Stops that trail the price by a given amount, or percentage.  Instead, I use trend-lines and technical analysis to determine my exit point.  When the price is trending, we can usually draw a channel within which the price will vary.  As long as the price stays within the channel, I continue to hold.  Once the price violates the channel, and breaks the trend, it is time to sell.  Once the new trend establishes itself, I take a new position.

Stop and Pause
Rarely is it a good thing to exit a trend and switch to the new one at the same time.  I learned a long time ago from sailing that when the wind begins to shift it will oscillate back and forth a few times before filling in from the predominate side.  The markets are similar.  You don't know which side the strong hands and the weaker hands are taking at first.  We want to do what the big guys are doing because that gives us the greatest probability of success.  Getting it wrong can get expensive.

Getting stopped out at the lowest price for the day is never a fun thing.  Instead, I use limit orders which specify the least I will accept when it is time to exit.  Do you use Stop Losses?


Monday, August 8, 2011

High Frequency Trading

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High Frequency Trading (HFT) was the likely cause of the May 2010 "Flash Crash".  I took the event as a sign of instability in the markets and sold everything I had which was long (trending with the market).  More than a year later, the regulators appear to be in the pockets of these organizations, and don't see a reason for making changes.  Perhaps they believe that market "circuit breakers" will prevent any crashes from occurring.  I am not so confident.

For me, there are three take-aways regarding this issue.  The first, as Jim Cramer says, is I invest only in strong, liquid (largely traded), best of breed companies and Exchange Traded Funds (ETF's) although I don't sacrifice all of my potential growth by holding only dividend paying companies.

The second is, I don't use hard stop losses.  These are sell orders which are automatically triggered when the price of the security reaches the specified limit.  I know what my sell price is, and place a limited sell order when my investment reaches my target.

Notice I said limited sell order?  The third thing is, I do not use market orders, but limit the price which I am prepared to pay.  This applies to buy and sell orders.  There are other reasons for taking this approach, but HFT provides me with the biggest reason to do so.

Until the regulators choose to see High Frequency Traders for what they really are - stock market spammers - I can't afford to ignore the potential damage they can cause to my portfolio.

Has recent events caused you to make improvements to your approach?